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Support double Do they apply here

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Posted 2012-April-26, 19:59

Simple question, is it standard to play support doubles in an auction like 1(1) 2 (2), or do they only apply after one level response by partner?

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Posted 2012-April-26, 20:42

No, that wouldn't be standard. The "standard" for support doubles is that they are off once the auction is above 2 or our suit.
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Posted 2012-April-27, 15:28

I thought it was standard. I think it means "we have more than half the pack, and I have one card less in length than I normally would have to bid your suit". Pass or bid accordingly.

I have never seen this at the 4 level, but I'm sure at the 3 level it is not an uncommon agreement.
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Posted 2012-April-27, 15:37

My expectation for X is extra values, no clear direction. If I had 3 diamonds, I would just raise diamonds.
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Posted 2012-April-29, 08:04

View PostCSGibson, on 2012-April-27, 15:37, said:

My expectation for X is extra values, no clear direction. If I had 3 diamonds, I would just raise diamonds.

If you play that 2 as not forcing (NFB) then yes, it shows extra values as a support double. I think it shows 2 cards in diamonds, because 3 diamonds is a raise to 3, as you are happy bidding at the 3 level on an 8 card fit when they have a higher ranking 8 card fit.

Perhaps we have the same idea after all. A support double shows 1 less than needed to support directly.
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Posted 2012-April-29, 11:31

my agreements is that support doubles happen only when partner has bid a major that has promised 4 cards, but could have 5 (or more). Regarless of the level (but higher level shows extras)

So 1-(pass)-1-(1)-double its just take out. While 1-(pass)-1-(3)-double is support with a better than minimum opening hand.
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Posted 2012-April-29, 17:09

View PostfromageGB, on 2012-April-29, 08:04, said:

If you play that 2 as not forcing (NFB) then yes, it shows extra values as a support double. I think it shows 2 cards in diamonds, because 3 diamonds is a raise to 3, as you are happy bidding at the 3 level on an 8 card fit when they have a higher ranking 8 card fit.

Perhaps we have the same idea after all. A support double shows 1 less than needed to support directly.


Playing 2D as forcing or not forcing has nothing to do with it.

We do not have the same idea. My idea is that a support double always shows exactly 3. My idea is that It does not apply here. This is not "support" but rather cooperative.
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