phil_20686, on 2012-April-09, 07:01, said:
Most people dont play "original" Jacoby anymore, you can do a lot better with a variety of different structures.Having said that, imo, its impossible to reach 6C here if you start with jacoby. No one I know has any way to play in a different suit after you have discovered such a good heart fit.
TWO4BRIDGE, on 2012-April-09, 16:36, said:
The hand is interesting because even the modified Jacobys that I'm aware of don't cater to finding a 4-4(or 5) outside fit ( with the 4 in Opener's hand ).
Playing Jallerton's forcing raise methods
1H - 2S*
2NT - 3C
3H - 3S
3NT - 4C
5D - 6C?
2NT = no shortage, 3C asks
3H = 2524, 3S asks
3NT = minimum HCP, 4C asks
4H = 1 or 4 keycards, 4S asks
5D = queen of hearts, king of clubs, not the king of spades
Responder has already taken the view to move past 4H, which isn't entirely obvious. And you've ended up in a slam which might need clubs 3-2 with the queen onside. What you do know is that 6C clubs is likely to be as good a contract as 5H, but you also know you might have been better in game.
It would be easier if you had a spare couple of queens somewhere (if opener had more HCP he can save a relay by going straight to the keycard response)
In summary, our methods after a forcing raise let us play in a different strain, so they do exist, but this hand is super difficult anyway because it's such a perfect fit with nothing wasted.