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## Few from tonight - II

### #41MrAce

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Posted 2012-May-11, 13:32

Phil, on 2012-May-11, 13:26, said:

Ergo simply means "therefore".

I know, but this doesnt help me to understand the problem of using it in forums. If it simply means "therefore" why is it considered (Han didn't say that but thats what i thought) annoying ?
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### #42AlexJonson

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Posted 2012-May-11, 14:20

For many speakers ergo is easier to spell than therefore.
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Posted 2012-May-11, 15:08

MrAce, on 2012-May-11, 13:32, said:

I know, but this doesnt help me to understand the problem of using it in forums. If it simply means "therefore" why is it considered (Han didn't say that but thats what i thought) annoying ?

I think it can be considered pretentious. Using a "fancy" word when a "simple" one would suffice annoys some people. Ergo doesn't really bother me personally.
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### #44gnasher

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Posted 2012-May-12, 04:21

There's nothing wrong per se with using Latin words instead of bona fide English words, but gratuitous use of such words can be distracting, so ceteris paribus it's preferable to use vernacular English. This was recommended by, inter alia, Fowler.

PS: Personally I prefer "hence".
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### #45gnasher

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Posted 2012-May-13, 05:33

gnasher, on 2012-May-12, 04:21, said:

This was recommended by, inter alia, Fowler.

If nobody else is going to nickpick this, I suppose I'd better do it myself. As I'm talking about people rather than things, it should, of course, be inter alii.
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### #46phil_20686

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Posted 2012-May-13, 09:42

gnasher, on 2012-May-13, 05:33, said:

it should, of course, be inter alii.

And I thought I was pedantic.
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### #47the hog

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Posted 2012-May-13, 17:53

"Ergo" is prefectly acceptable as a synonym for "therefore". It is certainly not pretentious.
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Posted 2012-May-14, 02:05

gnasher, on 2012-May-13, 05:33, said:

If nobody else is going to nickpick this, I suppose I'd better do it myself. As I'm talking about people rather than things, it should, of course, be inter alii.

Does this count as nitpicking?
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### #49han

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Posted 2012-May-14, 05:16

I don't think that there is anything wrong with ergo, it can be perfect in the right circumstances.

If you are making the case for a new groundbreaking theory that could change the history of mankind, you haven't let the conclusion out of the box yet, you let the pressure and suspense build up and up until suddenly, after your final logical step, you conclude after a moment's pause that...... "ERGO, THE WEAK NOTRUMP PLAYED BY AN EXPERT PARTNERSHIP IS CONSIDERABLY BETTER THAN A STRONG NOTRUMP!", that would be a good occasion for the word.

I think that thus or therefore wouldn't quite do it, but hence would work just as well.
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Posted 2012-May-14, 07:18

gnasher, on 2012-May-13, 05:33, said:

If nobody else is going to nickpick this, I suppose I'd better do it myself. As I'm talking about people rather than things, it should, of course, be inter alios.

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### #51MrAce

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Posted 2012-May-14, 12:43

han, on 2012-May-14, 05:16, said:

I don't think that there is anything wrong with ergo, it can be perfect in the right circumstances.

If you are making the case for a new groundbreaking theory that could change the history of mankind, you haven't let the conclusion out of the box yet, you let the pressure and suspense build up and up until suddenly, after your final logical step, you conclude after a moment's pause that...... "ERGO, THE WEAK NOTRUMP PLAYED BY AN EXPERT PARTNERSHIP IS CONSIDERABLY BETTER THAN A STRONG NOTRUMP!", that would be a good occasion for the word.

I think that thus or therefore wouldn't quite do it, but hence would work just as well.

Ok, now i understood it much better. Thank you.
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Posted 2012-May-14, 18:57

Probably, "For example" would have been better. Yes, I a native born American.
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Posted 2012-May-15, 17:54

Phil, on 2012-May-11, 13:26, said:

Ergo simply means "therefore".

That's what my Italian->English dictionary translates it as
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