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#1 User is offline   jules101 

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Posted 2012-February-19, 04:09



You make a 2-suited overcall at some level or another (2D or 4D etc)

Partner makes a forced preference.

How many of that suit are you now bidding?



Do you just cross your fingers and bid 6M, or do you try inviting pardner with 5M and risk them passing?

It's seems to me there is little science to such hands. Do you just need to "take a view"? [I hate that expression!]
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Posted 2012-February-19, 21:10

4D-P-(4H/S)-P?
5C-P-up to partner you showed interest in slam
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Posted 2012-February-20, 05:51

3 as strong with both majors followed by 5 perhaps as a reasonable start? Yes, if the opponents bid some number of diamonds we cannot really control the auction but if they are silent we should be able to get a little bit of science in when they did not take away any space!
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Posted 2012-February-20, 06:06

4 to begin with (showing 6-6). We'll see later what's cooking. If partner makes a simple preference on the 4 level and RHO passes, I guess 5 is a good bid. 5M is also good if you know partner knows you're 6-6 (with a 6-5 or a strong 5-5 you start with 2). That means you're not looking for a 2nd round control of a minor or anything, just asking your partner what he thinks about slam.

Finally, 4 then raising to 6 is not bad and is something that I would often do at the table (validating phil_20686's theory). Maybe that's best.
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Posted 2012-February-20, 06:12

I'd start with 2D. When partner bids 2M I'd bid 4C and pass partner's 4M.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-February-20, 07:28

The statistical expectancy is probably something like 1 or 1.5 covercards across. This hints at some prudence. Invite, but don't force to slam.
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Posted 2012-February-20, 08:00

I start with two diamonds because I play that four diamonds is a good 4M call.
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Posted 2012-February-20, 09:28

I like (1m) - 4C = solid hearts, (1m) - 4D = solid spades, nothing on the side.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-February-20, 09:36

I bid 2 and my continuation will differ a lot between partner showing spades or hearts.
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Posted 2012-February-20, 09:37

View Posthan, on 2012-February-20, 09:28, said:

I like (1m) - 4C = solid hearts, (1m) - 4D = solid spades, nothing on the side.


Seriously? Giving up on two really good/somewhat common preemptive bids like 1C 4D and 1D 4C seems like a massive loss for this, I hate it.

I agree with starting with 2D though, our hand is too good to want to start with 4D even if it shows 6-6 in the majors.
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Posted 2012-February-20, 09:43

I'm confused, I was thinking about

1m - p - 4C and

1m - p - 4D.

I don't like it here :).
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-February-20, 09:56

after michaels I think a simple raise shows this hand
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Posted 2012-February-20, 10:05

View Postpooltuna, on 2012-February-20, 09:56, said:

after michaels I think a simple raise shows this hand


or perhaps with 9 instead of 10
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Posted 2012-February-20, 19:57

View Posthan, on 2012-February-20, 06:12, said:

I'd start with 2D. When partner bids 2M I'd bid 4C and pass partner's 4M.


This makes sense.
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Posted 2012-February-21, 11:46

2D then 4C (splinter and a big hand). I might make one more try after that.

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Posted 2012-February-26, 09:57

View Postjules101, on 2012-February-19, 04:09, said:



You make a 2-suited overcall at some level or another (2D or 4D etc)

Partner makes a forced preference.

How many of that suit are you now bidding?



Do you just cross your fingers and bid 6M, or do you try inviting pardner with 5M and risk them passing?

It's seems to me there is little science to such hands. Do you just need to "take a view"? [I hate that expression!]


Can you please post the full hand? I would like to see the actual layout.
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Posted 2012-February-26, 10:08




My plan was in invite by bidding 5M over pard's 4M, but plan went awry.

I decided 5M over 5 would be passed.

4M could well be too high let alone 5M, but decided would risk making pard bid 6 and I got lucky!

Quite liked the auction where trumps are only mentioned once at the 6-level!
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