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#1 User is offline   bluecalm 

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Posted 2012-February-23, 17:10

What's your/best agreement here ?:

1)
2C* - 2H pass pass
2N = ?
*= 11-14 6+c or 5c-4M

2)
1H 2C 2H pass
pass 2N = ?

3)
1S 2C 2H* pass
pass 2N = ?
*=negative free bid

Lessons on punctuation are appreciated too. How do I add question mark and a colon to initial statement to make sense of it ? :)
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Posted 2012-February-23, 18:31

I will only do #2, since the conditions do not match our system on the other two.

(1M) 2C (2M) P
(P) 2NT.....2NT by the 2C overcaller is "delay unusual" for us. It shows typically 4-6 in the minors with a decent overcall.
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Posted 2012-February-23, 18:39

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I will only do #2, since the conditions do not match our system on the other two.


In 3rd opps are bidding NFB not you. You overcalled and now you are in balanced seat.

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) 2NT.....2NT by the 2C overcaller is "delay unusual" for us. It shows typically 4-6 in the minors with a decent overcall.


Do play limited openings or standard ?
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Posted 2012-February-23, 18:45

View Postbluecalm, on 2012-February-23, 18:39, said:

In 3rd opps are bidding NFB not you. You overcalled and now you are in balanced seat.



Do play limited openings or standard ?

Will relook at the 3rd. On the 2nd, I didn't open; I overcalled (unless I couldn't read that one either).

O.K. on the 3rd, I overcalled 2C then came in with 2N when the neg free bid came back around. Therefore, it is the same as #2 ---4-6 in the minors.
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Posted 2012-February-23, 18:47

Yeah, sry I am stupid.
2) and 3) are similar, just different opponents bidding.
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Posted 2012-February-23, 18:55

Number one is totally out of my sphere. I haven't played a big club system for 30 years, and don't remember what 2NT would mean as a reopen by the 2C bidder. If I had to guess, it would be the same 4-6 in the minors :rolleyes:
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Posted 2012-February-24, 01:52

All of them show 4-6 in the minors. In the second sequence, double would show 3136 or similar, and you'd bid 2 with four.

View Postbluecalm, on 2012-February-23, 17:10, said:

Lessons on punctuation are appreciated too. How do I add question mark and a colon to initial statement to make sense of it ? :)

I know of no perfect solution to this problem.

You could rephrase it so as not to need the colon, eg "What's your best agreement in the sequences below?" or "What's your best agreement in the following sequences?"

Or you can break the sentence in half:
"In these sequences:
[sequences]
What's your best agremeent?"

... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-February-24, 09:10

How about: "In the following sequences please tell me what your agreements would be and, if different, what you would consider best:-"

Anyway, my answer would be that they all show diamonds with longer clubs.
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Posted 2012-February-24, 09:20

1)
3 = natural invite
3 = artificial GF, asking for description

2)
2NT= 64, decent hand

3)
2NT = natural invitational (since 2 was 7-11)
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