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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2012-February-10, 18:47



pass = values

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Posted 2012-February-10, 19:31

View Postjillybean, on 2012-February-10, 18:47, said:



pass = values

Have you done enough?


No

I am not stopping in game with 9 count +fit vs a 2 opener. I almost have a 3 card limit raise (i wouldnt but most people do) if pd opened 1 and it will be too pessimistic to pass 4 now imo.

I have seen similar auctions so many times, south thinking he has done enough by cueing, North thinking he already opened 2 and he has nothing extra, both satisfied with their bids playing a slam or grandslam hand in game. Unless of course if pd is known to open 2 agressiveley. But even then there is a reason why he choosed to open 2, and that reason is he valued his hand more than opening 1.
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Posted 2012-February-10, 19:50

What do you bid, 4 ?
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Posted 2012-February-10, 20:25

Interesting auction; does 3 promise heart support or can it be a probe for 3NT? Is 3/4 stronger than a direct 4?
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Posted 2012-February-10, 20:55

passing would be a crime even in the BaIBy forum.
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Posted 2012-February-10, 20:56

3 is showing heart support but I expect partner to bid 3N with a stopper.
3 is showing a 5+ suit, I'm not sure 4 exists in this auction.

(this is a new partnership so we don't have detailed agreements for these sequences)
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Posted 2012-February-10, 21:42

edit: nm, I think I misread jb's post.
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Posted 2012-February-10, 21:49

Definitely keep bidding. I'd like to see a poll on what people think of 4S, 4NT, 5C and 5H as possible bids now...
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Posted 2012-February-10, 22:27

Gnarly and undiscussed in my partnership. I would bid 4 and hope for the best.

If pard bids 4nt I'm bidding 5. That wasn't blackwood was it?
If they bid 5 I'll try 5
If they bid 5 I didn't go this far not to bid slam.

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Posted 2012-February-10, 22:49

Partner didn't cue over 3 and you are all still pushing on?
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Posted 2012-February-10, 23:28

View Postjillybean, on 2012-February-10, 22:49, said:

Partner didn't cue over 3 and you are all still pushing on?


Pd can not have a hand that has no cue available btw. He couldnt even bid 3NT over 3, try to place 22 hcp in 3 suits. I am not even sure if 3 neccesarilly promised fit so i am actually expecting a good suit from pd.

3 bidder can have a strong hand with or without stopper and no fit, yet too strong to just bid 3NT.

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what was responder supposed to bid with this ? He would pass because it is w/w and he is happy to play 2 doubled if pd doubles, and he will cue over 3 since he is too strong to bid 3 NT.

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What was he supposed to bid over 3 with this ?
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Posted 2012-February-11, 00:35

View Postjillybean, on 2012-February-10, 22:49, said:

Partner didn't cue over 3 and you are all still pushing on?

Yes. We will discuss what a 2C opening bid looks like, if we are not safe at at least the 5-level. 4S seems right at the moment, since I am not sure I have really shown the Ace yet.

Pass=values over 2S could have been a whole lot less than what I have.
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Posted 2012-February-11, 02:07

View Postaguahombre, on 2012-February-11, 00:35, said:

Pass=values over 2S could have been a whole lot less than what I have.


Yes, basically it should be any hand better than 2nd negative imo.
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Posted 2012-February-11, 07:33

I wish I had spent some more time thinking this at the table. Partner actually forgot pass=values and thought I was showing negative but I could still have saved it.


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