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#1 User is offline   MrAce 

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Posted 2012-February-05, 03:46



2 was alerted better than preempt less than limit raise

5 0/3

What do u lead ?
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Posted 2012-February-05, 05:16

Declarer doesnt have a H void therefore he probably have a strong 2 suiter (5161/4171). Even if he had a 1 suiter im afraid he discard a club on the 3rd S. Im cashing my A of clubs but with no great conviction.
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Posted 2012-February-05, 06:43

I'd cash the A in the hope that it encourages declarer to play the trumps to break badly the wrong way.
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Posted 2012-February-05, 14:07

Declarer may ditch a on dummy's . Partner did not double 2 after all. It is not unlikely that declarer has a two-suiter with singleton and a singleton King or Ace.
If I have made this specific agreement, then I will keep the agreement.
A partner can convince me to play nearly anything, but if partner breaks agreements, then you will fairly fast reach the point, that I wont be interested in playing any longer. Stick to your agreements.
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Posted 2012-February-06, 02:46

A -- would a X of 2 have been responsive in your methods?
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Posted 2012-February-06, 03:24

View Postakhare, on 2012-February-06, 02:46, said:

A -- would a X of 2 have been responsive in your methods?


No, lead directing
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Posted 2012-February-06, 04:27

Declarer must have 2-suited a monster. Hard not to cash the club here.
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Posted 2012-February-06, 10:33

I think we can assume that declarer's combined assets probably include the AK s, and maybe the J. So a heart lead seems pointless.

The spade holding is extraordinarily dangerous to lead from and it isn't easy to construct layouts where it is necessary.

So we really revert to the club suit by elimination. And if we are leading clubs, there can be no reason to lead small. So the club A it is.

Any benefit in the trump suit is a happy plus....but I would be surprised if declarer is missing any trump or, if he is, that he would get it wrong.
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Posted 2012-February-06, 11:20

Not leading the CA is bizarre.
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Posted 2012-February-06, 14:15

This was a hand from Dutch Team championship couple days ago from vugraph.

The player on lead was Van Prooijen and he led . Then vugraph operator said that (after the hand is played) Verhees asked him why didnt he lead the obvious lead (due to lack of DBL of 2 and 5 i assume)

I wondered if it was that obvious. Apparently not upto replies in this topic.


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Posted 2012-February-06, 14:18

Lol Timo you really need to understand sarcasm better, too funny.
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Posted 2012-February-06, 15:54

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-February-06, 14:18, said:

Lol Timo you really need to understand sarcasm better, too funny.



I admit it never occured to me untill now u said it. I am sure you are correct, i was like " Wow, players of that level say this to their pd at the table ? "

I feel stupid now :(
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