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Concessions Partner is conceding my tricks

#1 User is offline   snoop1953 

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Posted 2012-February-04, 11:08

[font="Times New Roman"]Has anyone other than me noticed your partner can concede your tricks for you? On more than one occasion I have held cashing tricks at the end play, my partner has conceded and our tricks were lost. My understanding of the rules of Duplicate is that you can not concede for partner. This would be a simple programming fix. But first, has anyone else run into this?
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Posted 2012-February-04, 12:54

Yes, I'm sure a lot of people have noticed. Personally I consider it a feature rather than a bug - on the very few occassions I play with a random I like the option to unilaterally accept my opp's perfectly valid claims.

Implementing the full offline rules for claims online is impractical for several reasons, chief among them the lack of a TD in most cases.
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Posted 2012-February-04, 13:31

View Postmgoetze, on 2012-February-04, 12:54, said:

on the very few occassions I play with a random I like the option to unilaterally accept my opp's perfectly valid claims.
Unfortunately, lesser players use this feature to unilaterally accept their opps' invalid claims.
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Posted 2012-February-04, 15:54

View PostBbradley62, on 2012-February-04, 13:31, said:

Unfortunately, lesser players use this feature to unilaterally accept their opps' invalid claims.


Sure, and some people bid 7NTxx on random hands just for the heck of it. The solution is the same in either case.
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Posted 2012-February-04, 19:39

View Postmgoetze, on 2012-February-04, 15:54, said:

Sure, and some people bid 7NTxx on random hands just for the heck of it. The solution is the same in either case.


yes that is an annoyance, i remember once holding the ace of trumps, and refusing declarer's claim twice, my partner obliged him.

i mentioned this recently, and on previous occasions here, but bbo wants it to remain that way. some bromide about bridge being a partnership game.

View PostFree, on 2011-May-10, 03:57, said:

Babalu just wanted a shoulder to cry on, is that too much to ask for?
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Posted 2012-February-04, 23:38

I've had this happen to me. It's annoying, but you get two enemies out of it so I guess that evens out. I wonder if there's a reason to report declarers who accept concessions when the ace of trump is out to abuse.
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Posted 2012-February-04, 23:44

If you concede all the remaining tricks, is declarer even given the option of refusing it?

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Posted 2012-February-05, 00:46

Yes. Declarer can accept or refuse.

My experience is that in the vast majority of cases nobody looks closely.

In my opinion reporting to abuse doesn't do any good, since declarer isn't abusing anyone - and the hands cant be adjusted anyway.

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Posted 2014-September-15, 14:08

View Postbabalu1997, on 2012-February-04, 19:39, said:

yes that is an annoyance, i remember once holding the ace of trumps, and refusing declarer's claim twice, my partner obliged him.

Instead of repeatedly refusing the claim, make a counter-claim of the trick you're guaranteed to win. Do this before partner has a chance to concede it.

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Posted 2014-September-16, 23:42

ive had a case where I conceded in error (not knowing partner had a trump trick) or my partner conceded not knowing I had a trump trick.

both cases we were able to get the board adjusted. maybe just friendly directors.



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Posted 2014-September-17, 10:27

View Poststeve2005, on 2014-September-16, 23:42, said:

ive had a case where I conceded in error (not knowing partner had a trump trick) or my partner conceded not knowing I had a trump trick.

both cases we were able to get the board adjusted. maybe just friendlycompetent directors.

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Posted 2014-September-17, 10:49

Of course, directors can only be helpful in tourneys, not the MBC.

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Posted 2014-September-18, 07:20

Maybe it would be worthwhile implementing a safeguard against players claiming tricks they can't possibly win, or conceding tricks they can't possibly lose.

Or maybe not. It would be difficult to protect players against silly concessions like conceeding all tricks when holding trump king guarded behind dummy's ace. So maybe it would just give a false sense of security.

BTW sometimes one of the defenders has left without signing out and then the only way to get a score for the board is for the other defender to concede (or accept declarer's claim).
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Posted 2014-September-20, 08:53

View Postsnoop1953, on 2012-February-04, 11:08, said:

[font="Times New Roman"]Has anyone other than me noticed your partner can concede your tricks for you? On more than one occasion I have held cashing tricks at the end play, my partner has conceded and our tricks were lost. My understanding of the rules of Duplicate is that you can not concede for partner. This would be a simple programming fix. But first, has anyone else run into this?
IMO, when a player claims/concedes, the software should insist on acquiescence by both the other two active players.
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