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Rick Perry vs. Barack Obama The campaign has begun

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Posted 2011-August-15, 08:25

Obama will have no serious challenge from the democrats. Even if the democrats wanted to, dumping Obama would alienate enough voters to ensure defeat for the replacement candidate.

Perry will certainly crush Romney, Santorum, Gingrich, Cain, and Bachmann. And Ron Paul contradicts other republicans much too often to get the nod.

The question remains, though, who will be on the vice-presidential tickets? Biden is a big help for Obama in working with congress, but perhaps not a big help in attracting votes to the ticket. And the democrats might want someone who could compete in 2016 whether or not Obama loses. Hard to figure who that might be though.

My guess is that Perry will pick someone like Tim Pawlenty or Mitch Daniels.

It will have been four years since the US had a Texas republican in the White House. Here we go again.
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Posted 2011-August-15, 08:43

View PostPassedOut, on 2011-August-15, 08:25, said:

Obama will have no serious challenge from the democrats. Even if the democrats wanted to, dumping Obama would alienate enough voters to ensure defeat for the replacement candidate.

Perry will certainly crush Romney, Santorum, Gingrich, Cain, and Bachmann. And Ron Paul contradicts other republicans much too often to get the nod.

The question remains, though, who will be on the vice-presidential tickets? Biden is a big help for Obama in working with congress, but perhaps not a big help in attracting votes to the ticket. And the democrats might want someone who could compete in 2016 whether or not Obama loses. Hard to figure who that might be though.

My guess is that Perry will pick someone like Tim Pawlenty or Mitch Daniels.

It will have been four years since the US had a Texas republican in the White House. Here we go again.


I think that Mark Rubio would be their best choice for the VP slot
Choosing a latino governor might help deal with some of the anti immigrant baggage that they part is carrying around.

It's going to be interesting watching how the Perry campaign unfolds. Perry has been very effective in keeping himself locked away from the press (he refused to debate his Democratic challenger during the last election in Texas)

Personally, I don't think that Perry should be viable on the national stage.

His jobs message can't be generalized outside Texas (we're not all going start putting oil wells in out back yard)
His a religious nut case and was playing around with secession...
He is genuinely stupid
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Posted 2011-August-15, 09:28

View Posthrothgar, on 2011-August-15, 08:43, said:

His a religious nut case


FWIW, good explanation what I mean by religious nut case

http://www.thedailyb...gious-bond.html
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Posted 2011-August-15, 10:12

View Posthrothgar, on 2011-August-15, 08:43, said:

I think that Mark Rubio would be their best choice for the VP slot.
Choosing a latino governor might help deal with some of the anti-immigrant baggage that they part is carrying around.

Yes, Rubio would be a strong VP pick. Would help with both hispanics and Florida voters.

View Posthrothgar, on 2011-August-15, 08:43, said:

Personally, I don't think that Perry should be viable on the national stage.

His jobs message can't be generalized outside Texas (we're not all going start putting oil wells in our back yard)
His a religious nut case and was playing around with secession...
He is genuinely stupid

These factors will not prevent him from getting the nomination, but might influence some voters in the general election.
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Posted 2011-August-15, 11:42

In case there are others such as myself who know very little about theman, here is a collection of views.

See correct link in the post below.

This starts with Ezra Klein's own thoughts, then there is some other stuff, then a collection of people spouting off. Sort of like here, actually.
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Posted 2011-August-15, 12:03

View Postkenberg, on 2011-August-15, 11:42, said:

In case there are others such as myself who know very little about theman, here is a collection of views.
https://mail.google....31cd45104052ceb
This starts with Ezra Klein's own thoughts, then there is some other stuff, then a collection of people spouting off. Sort of like here, actually.

Found this link, which is likely the one you meant: Wonkbook: A Rick Perry primer

Thanks. Will read tonight after work.
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Posted 2011-August-15, 12:14

View Posthrothgar, on 2011-August-15, 08:43, said:

I think that Mark Rubio would be their best choice for the VP slot

Is a first-term senator really qualified to be VP? Oh... wait... never mind...
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Posted 2011-August-15, 15:43

a lot of people were hoping rubio, or christie, would run... either would be good choices as vp, regardless who gets the nomination, though christie likely won't be interested... in spite of richard's hater post, i doubt the dems can afford to go to sleep on perry

View PostBbradley62, on 2011-August-15, 12:14, said:

Is a first-term senator really qualified to be VP? Oh... wait... never mind...

going by recent events, i'd say no
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Posted 2011-August-15, 19:09

Saying "God help us if Rick Perry wins" seems like it should be an oxymoron, but it sure feels right to say it. <_<
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Posted 2011-August-16, 10:35

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Saying "God help us if Rick Perry wins" seems like it should be an oxymoron, but it sure feels right to say it. <_<

there are no atheists in foxholes ... or politics
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Posted 2011-August-16, 11:01

View Postluke warm, on 2011-August-16, 10:35, said:

there are no atheists in foxholes

FYI: Fort Bragg approves on-post atheist festival, Rock Beyond Belief

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Posted 2011-August-16, 13:09

View PostPassedOut, on 2011-August-16, 11:01, said:


yeah, but they'd never get elected in the u.s. ... maybe in Massachusetts, but not the u.s. ;)
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Posted 2011-August-17, 22:01

It appears with this latest "Bernanke is treasonous" claim that Perry believes the key to winning this election is a direct appeal to the American Idol/Jerry Springer/700 Club fanbase.

What frightens me most is the thought he could be right.
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Posted 2011-August-18, 06:08

View Posthrothgar, on 2011-August-15, 08:43, said:

He is genuinely stupid


Does this not make him perfectly qualified for the job?
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Posted 2011-August-18, 06:25

View PostWinstonm, on 2011-August-17, 22:01, said:

It appears with this latest "Bernanke is treasonous" claim that Perry believes the key to winning this election is a direct appeal to the American Idol/Jerry Springer/700 Club fanbase.

What frightens me most is the thought he could be right.



Yes, and since then he has announced that global warming is a conspiracy and that there should be no new regulations about anything. He seems to be approaching campaigning as:

You think Michelle is crazy? You want crazy? I'll give you crazy.
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Posted 2011-August-18, 06:36

View Postkenberg, on 2011-August-18, 06:25, said:

Yes, and since then he has announced that global warming is a conspiracy and that there should be no new regulations about anything. He seems to be approaching campaigning as:

You think Michelle is crazy? You want crazy? I'll give you crazy.

Yes, he's already come this close to blowing his opportunity. Starting this thread might turn out to be just another example of my foolishness.

Rick Perry, global warming and those durn scientists

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Whenever scientists get together, Perry seems to feel, you can tell that they are up to no good. They tend not to reemerge until they’ve made a nuclear bomb or electrocuted a boxed cat or come up with special relativity. What was wrong with regular relativity? That sounds dangerously postmodern.

There’s logic and proof, sure, but then there’s the feeling you get in your gut, and that is what counts. Science won’t keep you warm at night, except the small area of science that is responsible for your central heating system.

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Posted 2011-August-18, 07:26

Let Perry and Romney talk about job creation and science. Michele Bachmann knows what people really want: $2 gas

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"Under President Bachmann you will see gasoline come down below $2 a gallon again," Bachmann told a crowd Tuesday in South Carolina. "That will happen."

And ice cream cones will cost a quarter.
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Posted 2011-August-18, 07:29

View PostPassedOut, on 2011-August-18, 07:26, said:

Let Perry and Romney talk about job creation and science. Michele Bachmann knows what people really want: $2 gas


And ice cream cones will cost a quarter.


Damn straight!

When your policy perscriptions are based on a magic sky fairy showing you some good loving, nothing is out of reach!
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Posted 2011-August-18, 10:32

Found this video amusing. And here's an article on the same topic. While I agree that Paul is unlikely to win the GOP nomination, why do the media think they have the right to decide for whom we should vote? The media's job is to report what's going on, not to selectively edit reality to fit their own agenda.
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Posted 2011-August-18, 10:51

The video is hilarious. I'm really not up for abolishing the fed, I'm not a revolutionary sort of guy, but the video is hilarious.
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