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#21 User is offline   Free 

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Posted 2011-April-27, 02:46

View Postobscurans, on 2011-April-24, 09:30, said:

I've been trying to cook up a strong diamond system
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1♦: any strong (17+) or weak NT, F1, all others nf
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This isn't a strong ♦ system, it's 2-way and most often it will be weak... :rolleyes:
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Posted 2012-February-25, 09:39

Please see Jones Strong Diamond for a full strong 1♦ system and explanation of the advantages of this. The website is based on ongoing database research which proves the potential of the strong 1♦.
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Posted 2012-February-27, 02:19

View Posthalcj, on 2012-February-25, 09:39, said:

The website is based on ongoing database research which proves the potential of the strong 1♦.


Welcome to the forums. I had a quick look through the site but did not find any proof for strong diamond systems versus the alternatives. I doubt many regular readers of this forum would dispute that a strong diamond system is workable, even good. I have never seen anyone claim that they are generally better than other methods.
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Posted 2012-February-27, 06:03

View PostZelandakh, on 2012-February-27, 02:19, said:

... I had a quick look through the site but did not find any proof ...

The web site notes "I also intend to add pages to summarise my research" which we can look forward to seeing
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Posted 2012-March-01, 12:06

I agree this is a great site, well worth checking out.
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Posted 2012-March-01, 17:16

View PostSixOfWands, on 2012-March-01, 12:06, said:

I agree this is a great site, well worth checking out.

Welcome to bbf! What system do you currently play?
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Posted 2012-March-01, 19:03

Burgay invented and played played a strong Diamond system; I played against this a bit. It was quite effective and had nothing to do with any forcing pass system. I think there are still some copies floating on the web.
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Posted 2012-March-01, 21:35

View PostSixOfWands, on 2012-March-01, 12:06, said:

I agree this is a great site, well worth checking out.



View Postglen, on 2012-March-01, 17:16, said:

Welcome to bbf! What system do you currently play?


Considering the sudden flood of new posters who don't make any other posts, i'd hazard a small bet on his playing the Jones diamond with his dad.
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Posted 2012-March-01, 21:37

Interesting. I spent a lot of time analyzing a Strong Diamond System in the 1960s ....

Revolution in Bridge, 1965, G. R. Nail and Robert Stucker, 325 pages, LCCC 65-26321

Nail played in the Bermuda Bowl in 1962, 1963. However, this system was not played by Nail in the BB.

Italian Asking Bid influence and lots of memory work.

Ahead of his time?

1NT = 14-16

2NT = 20-21

5-card Majors

1C = Balanced or 5-cd minor, or unbidable Major

1D = 16+ hcp and UNBALANCED


I still prefer almost any Strong Club system ....
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Posted 2012-March-01, 21:40

View PostNabooba, on 2012-March-01, 19:03, said:

Burgay invented and played played a strong Diamond system; I played against this a bit. It was quite effective and had nothing to do with any forcing pass system. I think there are still some copies floating on the web.


Yep, here is one reference:

http://bridgewithdan...tems/Burgay.txt

Don't forget Magic Diamond:

www.bridgewithdan.com/systems/MagicD.zip

This post has been edited by PrecisionL: 2012-March-02, 06:38

Ultra ♣: See Daniel's web page:

http://bridgewithdan...stems/Ultra.pdf

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