So i have been playing 2/1 15-17 for the last 2 years.
Sometimes played weak NT which was lots of fun.
But the question ive got is how does Gazilli change when you play weak NT in all seats?
Is there a book about it ?
Would appreciate any help
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Gazilli with weak NT
#2
Posted 2011-April-14, 08:31
Raff90, on 2011-April-14, 08:06, said:
So i have been playing 2/1 15-17 for the last 2 years.
Sometimes played weak NT which was lots of fun.
But the question ive got is how does Gazilli change when you play weak NT in all seats?
Is there a book about it ?
Would appreciate any help
Sometimes played weak NT which was lots of fun.
But the question ive got is how does Gazilli change when you play weak NT in all seats?
Is there a book about it ?
Would appreciate any help
Well, there was a scheme that pard and I invented for ourselves many years ago, before we ever heard of Gazilli but sounds somewhat similar.
You are playing weak 1N, with 5 card majors, and use 1S over 1H as the FNT (aka Kaplan inversion, Granville or similar).
It has been a while since playing it and memory is a bit rusty. No access to notes where I am at work and I may find some differences if I look it up later.
Over 1S-1N
2C = 4+H or 4+C or balanced (next step = max vals for a NF 1N, other suits drop dead.
....................Over next step 2H shows 4H min, 2S = 4C min, 2N = bal)
2D = 6+S (next step = max vals for a NF 1N, other suits drop dead)
2H = 4+D with extra values (I may have included a V strong bal option in here)
2S = 4+D weak opener
Over 1H-1S
1N = 4+D or 4+C or balanced
2C = 6+H
2D = 4+S with extra values
2H = 4+S weak opener
See 1S-IN for basic scheme of continuations.
I should mention that this really requires that you commit to opening 1N with 5M332 when in range. This is not everyone's cup of tea, although I am comfortable with it.
[EDIT -something doesn't look quite right. I will try to find my notes and re-edit later]
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Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#3
Posted 2011-April-19, 02:15
It depends a lot if you open 1NT with 5 card Majors or not...
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#4
Posted 2011-April-19, 02:39
One might argue whether you open 1N with a 5 card major a lot or not depends on if you play gazilli!
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#5
Posted 2011-April-19, 13:56
Enlighten me. My Gazilli is (essentially) a 17+ artificial 2♣ rebid after opening 1M. How does the strength of a 1NT open affect this?
#6
Posted 2011-April-19, 15:30
We play a version of Gazilli in our weak no trump four card major system.
I am not sure now where I got the original version or which bits we have tweaked ourselves.
This is the structure
1M 1NT
2♣ 11-16 with clubs or any game invite
Therefore:
2♦ and 2♥ over 1♠ are limited to around 15 hcp;
2M is also weak;
All other rebids by opener are GF - 2NT is game forcing and denies a side five-card suit as 3newsuit shows five and usually denies six of the major.
After
1♠ 1NT
2NT ...
3♣ = four or more clubs
3♦ = five or more diamonds
3♥ = five or more hearts
3♠ = three spades
3NT = precisely 2=4=4=3.
After
1M 1NT
2♣ ...
2♦ = any minimum that doesn't fit another bid (no spade preference - basically clubs or diamonds weak, not five hearts (over 1♠) or any hand with four hearts over 1♠)
2♥ (over 1♠) = five or more hearts - only five hearts if maximum
2M = preference two or three but usually not two with long clubs that would prefer 3♣ if open is weak with clubs
2♠ (over 1♥) = both minors maximum
2NT = maximum unsuited for another bid (which means at least four diamonds)
3♣ = maximum with clubs
3♦/♥ = maximum with six card suit
3M = maximum with three card support
Over
1M 1NT
2♣ 2♦
...
2♥ (over 1♠) = invite with five-four in majors
2M = 11-16 with clubs
2♠ (over 1♥) = invite with four-five in majors
2NT = invite with four or five in major opened
3♣/♦ = invite with clubs/diamonds
3♥ (over 1♠) = invite with five five in majors
3♠ = invite with six spades
I am not sure now where I got the original version or which bits we have tweaked ourselves.
This is the structure
1M 1NT
2♣ 11-16 with clubs or any game invite
Therefore:
2♦ and 2♥ over 1♠ are limited to around 15 hcp;
2M is also weak;
All other rebids by opener are GF - 2NT is game forcing and denies a side five-card suit as 3newsuit shows five and usually denies six of the major.
After
1♠ 1NT
2NT ...
3♣ = four or more clubs
3♦ = five or more diamonds
3♥ = five or more hearts
3♠ = three spades
3NT = precisely 2=4=4=3.
After
1M 1NT
2♣ ...
2♦ = any minimum that doesn't fit another bid (no spade preference - basically clubs or diamonds weak, not five hearts (over 1♠) or any hand with four hearts over 1♠)
2♥ (over 1♠) = five or more hearts - only five hearts if maximum
2M = preference two or three but usually not two with long clubs that would prefer 3♣ if open is weak with clubs
2♠ (over 1♥) = both minors maximum
2NT = maximum unsuited for another bid (which means at least four diamonds)
3♣ = maximum with clubs
3♦/♥ = maximum with six card suit
3M = maximum with three card support
Over
1M 1NT
2♣ 2♦
...
2♥ (over 1♠) = invite with five-four in majors
2M = 11-16 with clubs
2♠ (over 1♥) = invite with four-five in majors
2NT = invite with four or five in major opened
3♣/♦ = invite with clubs/diamonds
3♥ (over 1♠) = invite with five five in majors
3♠ = invite with six spades
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dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
#7
Posted 2011-April-20, 01:36
fromageGB, on 2011-April-19, 13:56, said:
Enlighten me. My Gazilli is (essentially) a 17+ artificial 2♣ rebid after opening 1M. How does the strength of a 1NT open affect this?
Again, it depends if you open 1NT with 5 card Majors or not. If you don't, then it doesn't matter indeed.
It also depends if you play 1M-1NT forcing, semi-forcing or NF, because you might need to show a weak/strong balanced hand with 5M332 somehow.
"It may be rude to leave to go to the bathroom, but it's downright stupid to sit there and piss yourself" - blackshoe
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