Director's Duties
#1
Posted 2011-January-23, 15:30
Near the kitchenette, an EW pair that finished the round early left the table and are talking about a pair they just played. One player, perhaps within earshot of a nearby table, says, "I think _____cheated on the last board".
What would you do?
(As usual, this is a roundabout way of asking another question I am curious about).
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#2
Posted 2011-January-23, 15:45
Phil, on 2011-January-23, 15:30, said:
I ask the table "perhaps within earshot" what they heard. If they heard identifiable accusations of cheating then my hands are tied and disciplinary procedures must be followed.
If the table did not hear enough for what was said to constitute a public accusation of cheating, then:
- I warn the pair that they could have been overheard, and that would be a serious offence;
- I ask if there is anything from the play at the table they wish to bring to my attention.
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#3
Posted 2011-January-23, 15:48
Phil, on 2011-January-23, 15:30, said:
Near the kitchenette, an EW pair that finished the round early left the table and are talking about a pair they just played. One player, perhaps within earshot of a nearby table, says, "I think _____cheated on the last board".
What would you do?
(As usual, this is a roundabout way of asking another question I am curious about).
I enquire of the pair exactly what they were talking about.
Sometimes players say "cheat" when talking to someone they are familiar with as a substitute for something that they don't really consider cheating or they are mislead and attribute motives to something that was purely accidental.
If it turns out that you believe there was no cheating or that the allegation included insufficient evidence that cheating had occurred I would warn them not to spread that rumour and if necessary and I heard or a continuation of the allegations I would apply some disciplinary penalty or worse. I had a case once where I told a pair that if they repeated their allegations to other players in the room during the session I would remove them from the tournament and their would be subsequent disciplinary action.
If their accusation did have substance again I would tell them not to publically make the allegation and investigate the cheating appropriately.
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#4
Posted 2011-January-23, 16:58
What prompted my question is what if the same conversation takes place before or after the session, or outside the playing area?
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#5
Posted 2011-January-23, 17:28
Phil, on 2011-January-23, 16:58, said:
In the EBU, this would be a breach of the "Best Behaviour at Bridge" code. This would result in a standard disciplinary fine: twice the standard amount = 20% of a top. Any disciplinary fine also results in a record of the fine being sent to the regulating authority or tournament organiser.
Phil, on 2011-January-23, 16:58, said:
Again, I can only answer for EBU procedures. A TD is supposed to act on disciplinary offences that take place outside the playing time or outside the playing area, for instance in the bar after the end of the session. The full scope of this has not been tested but I think if the TD is "on duty" (including between sessions) and is "on site" (on the premises for the event) then he is expected to act. How fines are applied between events is not clear, but a record would be sent to the regulatory authority or tournament organiser.
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#6
Posted 2011-January-23, 17:38
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#7
Posted 2011-January-24, 21:06
On an occasion another player was extremely rude to me in the bar between sessions because I am a member of the EBU L&EC. He was also rude about all members of the EBU L&EC. As you can imagine he did not agree with one of our decisions. I removed myself from his area as quickly as possible.
The next day, at roughly the same time and place he was rude to me again: when I suggested he should not be he said "I shall be rude to every member of the L&EC I meet on every occasion I meet them". Now I said something or other back, it got somewhat heated, and while the vast majority of people present thought it hilarious, the DIC did not. He took 1 VP off us each - it was a Swiss Teams - and told us to behave and be quiet. Naturally I followed his instructions but the other player did not, continuing to shout at the top of his voice at the DIC. The DIC expelled him from the tournament.
On a different occasion a player was very rude to me in the bar at an event because I am the editor of th EBU Orange book. He was abusive and incredibly rude. The DIC [a different one from last time] was present and did nothing. I am fairly sure he did nothing because he felt his jurisdiction did not extend to the bar. This was after the last session of the day.
A year later at the same tournament I asked an official in the bar for advice on what to do on my day off. He was abusive, shockingly so, basically saying I should have researched the place in advance of the tournament and it was unreasonable to ask for advice. The same DIC as a year earlier again did nothing. While I have mentioned this to a senior member of the EBU she did not think anything should be done, and I have merely given up going to that tournament. Again, I feel the DIC felt it was not within his remit.
I think TDs in th EBU may have been given insufficient advice as to what action they should or should not take for disciplinary matters outside the playing area.
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#8
Posted 2011-January-24, 22:14
blackshoe, on 2011-January-23, 17:38, said:
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#9
Posted 2011-January-25, 14:58
I must confess that it was obvious to all concerned that it was obvious that his remarks were in jest, as my partner and I had just turned in a 72% game. (He and his parnter were a distant second.) Had I thought otherwise I would have called this to the attention of the director and expected some action on his part.