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#1 User is offline   Lurpoa 

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Posted 2010-November-11, 06:19

Playing "default" 2/1n ,as defined ind the BridgeWorldStandard,

are "systems" on or off after an overall of our 1NT opener ?

what after a double of our 1NT ?

what on the 2NTfamily of openers
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Posted 2010-November-11, 06:38

(Bridge World Standard is not 2/1 GF.)

After an overcall BWS has negative doubles to 3 and lebensohl. No detail is given for what happens after a double of 1NT, except that a redouble is strength-showing if double was artificial.
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Posted 2010-November-11, 08:04

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Interpretation priorities: When a call is subject to different possible interpretations and there is no explicit system agreement, it should be considered:

(a) natural rather than artificial;


If you want to learn BWS, you should read it, rather than asking questions about it here.
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Posted 2010-November-11, 08:56

View Postmgoetze, on 2010-November-11, 08:04, said:

If you want to learn BWS, you should read it, rather than asking questions about it here.



Absolutely right. :P . Thank you. :rolleyes:
But admit it: it is not an easy document to read. :o :o .
You need to read, and reread it.... and read it again...

What do you think about the Texas transfers ? Still valid ? After an overcall of our 1NT at two-level ? At three level.

I guees that same rule should be used. Texas transfer valid up to an overcall of 3 included. Would that be a good interpretation ?
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Posted 2010-November-11, 18:32

I don't see where in the document it says anything about Texas transfers being on in competition. I think this is an area where BWS is underdefined and you would do well to agree something in addition to BWS.
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Posted 2010-November-12, 00:43

View Postmgoetze, on 2010-November-11, 18:32, said:

I don't see where in the document it says anything about Texas transfers being on in competition. I think this is an area where BWS is underdefined and you would do well to agree something in addition to BWS.

Tu M.,
agreed, better make sure that partner understands the same thing !!! All by all, would you say that: "Texas transfers ON, after an overcall up to 3, on higher overcalls Texas is off", is a reasonable agreement ?
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Posted 2010-November-12, 03:30

View PostLurpoa, on 2010-November-12, 00:43, said:

Tu M.,
agreed, better make sure that partner understands the same thing !!! All by all, would you say that: "Texas transfers ON, after an overcall up to 3, on higher overcalls Texas is off", is a reasonable agreement ?


Yes, I think it was recently agreed in another part of this forum that this is "expert standard".
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Posted 2010-November-12, 06:57

Texas Transfers are ON over interference thru 3C only.

...... because: 1NT - ( 3D ) - 4D! is needed for Stayman.....

...... and thus: 1NT - ( 3D) - 4H is not a transfer either
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Posted 2010-November-12, 14:11

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2010-November-12, 06:57, said:

Texas Transfers are ON over interference thru 3C only.

...... because: 1NT - ( 3D ) - 4D! is needed for Stayman.....

...... and thus: 1NT - ( 3D) - 4H is not a transfer either

Not so sure of this.....
Playing "default" 2/1 ,as defined in the Bridge WorldStandard,
why should that 4 be Stayman ? and what would 4 be ?

But I agree that the proposed treament is very logical (yes what else?) and might fall under "Interpretation" priorities: 4 Natural, with good clubs, and forcing, 4: asking P to bid his best major.

Would be glad to hear any opinions....
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Posted 2010-November-12, 16:44

View Postmgoetze, on 2010-November-11, 08:04, said:

If you want to learn BWS, you should read it, rather than asking questions about it here.


Perhaps we should be a little kinder to someone who has posted five times if we want them to post a sixth.
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Posted 2010-November-12, 23:56

As was suggested:

"You must carefully read the BWS doucument"...

In that document, the"systems" after a 1NT opener are only defined for the non-competitive bidding: begining of Section IV.

My conclusion is: playing "default" BWS2001, systems are off after a double or an overcall of our 1NT. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Any opinions ?
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