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#1 User is offline   Tomi2 

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Posted 2010-September-09, 15:17

found that article linked in facebook, continuation of the "who will play in what team" discussions:

http://neapolitanclub.altervista.org/eng/l...-interview.html

Now it seems there are 3 Teams in Italy
-Lavazza with Duboin-Sementa and Bocchi Madala
-Angelini with Nunes-Fantoni and "a Norwegian pair" (expect Helnes Helgemo)
-Zaleski with Lauria-Versace


always interesting to see how players and teams move and move and how the hard market creates a bad atmosphere amon the players...

but anyway for the fans of Italian Championships a tourney with more top teams is much more fun.
In Germany the Bamberg team splited for the open teams to avoid the Bamberg vs rest competiton, the championships became far more interesting imo...
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Posted 2010-September-09, 16:36

Tomi2, on Sep 9 2010, 04:17 PM, said:

found that article linked in facebook, continuation of the "who will play in what team" discussions:

http://neapolitanclub.altervista.org/eng/l...-interview.html

Now it seems there are 3 Teams in Italy
-Lavazza with Duboin-Sementa and Bocchi Madala
-Angelini with Nunes-Fantoni and "a Norwegian pair" (expect Helnes Helgemo)
-Zaleski with Lauria-Versace


always interesting to see how players and teams move and move and how the hard market creates a bad atmosphere amon the players...

but anyway for the fans of Italian Championships a tourney with more top teams is much more fun.
In Germany the Bamberg team splited for the open teams to avoid the Bamberg vs rest competiton, the championships became far more interesting imo...

Thanks for posting, very interesting behind the curtain look.
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Posted 2010-September-10, 03:33

Enjoyed reading the last piece.

Fantunes: They are selected instead of us because of politics.

Lauria: What? We are just much better, that's all!
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-September-13, 10:14

Much better seems to be a strange statement - I doubt anyone with a bit of realism can say they are much better than Fantoni - Nunes. The real thing is - there is no qualifying for 2011 Bowl in Italy!
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Posted 2010-September-21, 16:57

Helgemo, Helness and Brogeland in Angelini Team with Fantunes

:)

http://neapolitanclub.altervista.org/eng/h...elini-team.html
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Posted 2010-September-21, 17:05

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Helgemo, Helness and Brogeland


Weren't these guys banned from playing for their country last year? Which means they can represent Italy next year... Wouldn't that be a strange coincidence?

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2010-September-21, 17:33

Hanoi5, on Sep 22 2010, 12:05 AM, said:

Weren't these guys banned from playing for their country last year?

No, only one of them, I believe.
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Posted 2010-September-21, 18:06

gnasher, on Sep 21 2010, 07:33 PM, said:

Hanoi5, on Sep 22 2010, 12:05 AM, said:

Weren't these guys banned from playing for their country last year?

No, only one of them, I believe.

Nope. Brogeland is the only one which wasn't involved.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


View Postrbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2010-September-22, 02:31

Hanoi5, on Sep 22 2010, 01:06 AM, said:

gnasher, on Sep 21 2010, 07:33 PM, said:

Hanoi5, on Sep 22 2010, 12:05 AM, said:

Weren't these guys banned from playing for their country last year?

No, only one of them, I believe.

Nope. Brogeland is the only one which wasn't involved.

Before you make public statements that might affect another player's reputation, you should make very sure that you have your facts right. You have now got it wrong twice.

Neither Helness nor Brogeland was involved, and neither was disiplined by the Norwegian Bridge Federaton.

I can't find the original disciplinary committee decision, but between them these two articles name all eight of the players involved:

http://bridge.no/Organisasjon/Nyheter/NM-f...siplinaervedtak

http://bridge.no/Organisasjon/Nyheter/Utme...er-Heimdalsaken
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Posted 2010-September-22, 06:02

gnasher, on Sep 22 2010, 04:31 AM, said:

Hanoi5, on Sep 22 2010, 01:06 AM, said:

gnasher, on Sep 21 2010, 07:33 PM, said:

Hanoi5, on Sep 22 2010, 12:05 AM, said:

Weren't these guys banned from playing for their country last year?

No, only one of them, I believe.

Nope. Brogeland is the only one which wasn't involved.

Before you make public statements that might affect another player's reputation, you should make very sure that you have your facts right. You have now got it wrong twice.

Neither Helness nor Brogeland was involved, and neither was disiplined by the Norwegian Bridge Federaton.

I can't find the original disciplinary committee decision, but between them these two articles name all eight of the players involved:

http://bridge.no/Organisasjon/Nyheter/NM-f...siplinaervedtak

http://bridge.no/Organisasjon/Nyheter/Utme...er-Heimdalsaken

You're right. Then I have to say Brogeland was the only one playing for Norway in Sao Paolo.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


View Postrbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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Posted 2010-September-22, 07:24

Hanoi5, on Sep 22 2010, 07:02 AM, said:

gnasher, on Sep 22 2010, 04:31 AM, said:

Hanoi5, on Sep 22 2010, 01:06 AM, said:

gnasher, on Sep 21 2010, 07:33 PM, said:

Hanoi5, on Sep 22 2010, 12:05 AM, said:

Weren't these guys banned from playing for their country last year?

No, only one of them, I believe.

Nope. Brogeland is the only one which wasn't involved.

Before you make public statements that might affect another player's reputation, you should make very sure that you have your facts right. You have now got it wrong twice.

Neither Helness nor Brogeland was involved, and neither was disiplined by the Norwegian Bridge Federaton.

I can't find the original disciplinary committee decision, but between them these two articles name all eight of the players involved:

http://bridge.no/Organisasjon/Nyheter/NM-f...siplinaervedtak

http://bridge.no/Organisasjon/Nyheter/Utme...er-Heimdalsaken

You're right. Then I have to say Brogeland was the only one playing for Norway in Sao Paolo.

I did some trawling in RGB (which I can't be bothered to repeat to find the relevant posts in a huge thread), and it appears to be accepted fact that Helgemo/Helness had made themselves unavailable for the main event to play in Zimmerman's transnational team some while before the events that triggered this disciplinary.
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Posted 2010-September-25, 07:18

problems?

maybe: complaint submittet against 3 players from Norwey in Italy

http://www.bridgetop...-norwegian-much
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Posted 2010-September-26, 14:19

Who won?
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Posted 2010-September-26, 20:55

mrdct, on Sep 27 2010, 01:49 AM, said:

Who won?

Allegra by 1 IMP on the last deal of the match where they gained 10 imps.
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Posted 2010-September-27, 06:46

mrdct, on Sep 26 2010, 03:19 PM, said:

Who won?

Allegra Team (Torino - lavazza) but outcome is still pending because of a complaint ...

http://neapolitanclub.altervista.org/eng/2...t-approved.html
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Posted 2010-October-02, 03:14

Tomi2, on Sep 9 2010, 04:17 PM, said:

found that article linked in facebook, continuation of the "who will play in what team" discussions:

http://neapolitanclub.altervista.org/eng/l...-interview.html

Now it seems there are 3 Teams in Italy
-Lavazza with Duboin-Sementa and Bocchi Madala
-Angelini with Nunes-Fantoni and "a Norwegian pair" (expect Helnes Helgemo)
-Zaleski with Lauria-Versace


maybe in next spring championship Angelini will offer an engage to American pair Meckstroth - Rodwell
This is what Versace says in an interview :)

http://neapolitanclub.altervista.org/eng/i...do-versace.html
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